Help me identify Corningware Pattern Flowers Orange Blue

[Webuycorningware]

Tracy

Thank you for trying at Kitchenworld

I am still waiting on a response from Replacements.com

I will let you all know anything I learn

[CorelleCollector]

Hi All,

I just came across a photo of this same pattern on ebay from the All Things From Corning Glass Works forum group photo album of unusual patterns.

The group member who posted the photo is quite knowledgeable and informative on patterns and has named the photo WINDSOR ROSE.

I have posted a question for a confirmation and will update when someone responds.

[CindyMuffin]

I'm sorry to say it, but I disagree. Corelle Windsor Rose is here on this site and it has no little blue flowers. The pink flowers are very pink and the Corning Ware has sort of coral coloured flowers. The leaves are different also.

[Webuycorningware]

I have requests all over the Internet for help with this pattern name.

One name that is consistently being offered is Glenora .

I am also in the eBay group, All Things from the Corning Glass Works, and a poster again suggests Glenora and states that Replacements Ltd sometimes have misidentified patterns.

So, what do YOU think? Could the pattern shown in the picture on Replacements Ltd as Glenora not actually be Glenora?

Here is the Replacements Ltd picture of Glenora.



Is the pattern shown in this picture actually Glenora or something else?

Thanks in advance.

If I were to contact Replacements and suggest they may be wrong would they be insulted? They are such a useful tool and I would hate to be blacklisted for being a "clever clogs".

[CindyMuffin]

In all the times I have consulted Replacements Ltd, I have never seen them completely mis-identify a pattern. What they are bad for is calling something an unknown when they ought to know perfectly well what it really is. If you check out the patterns they have listed at the end with names like COR01, COR02, etc. you'll probably see some there which everyone knows the correct name of. They are not interested in revising their information either. They were approached with an offer of help by another member of this forum, who is very well-informed, and they refused it.

So what they call Glenora is certainly Glenora. It agrees with the Glenora identified in the pattern ID section on this site also.

What I was struck by when I was looking for your Corning Ware pattern is how many Corelle patterns look so similar to it, but they are still not a perfect match. All these patterns were contemporary with each other mid to late 1980s approximately. It gave me an idea that perhaps they produced a distinct Corning Ware pattern that kind-of, sort-of went with all of these Corelle patterns. It's cheaper to make one pattern than 5 patterns, if you expect to sell the same number of units either way.

This is just total speculation, mind you! But it makes sense when we can't find a Corelle pattern that matches this exactly. They would not make Corning Ware for a Corelle pattern that was not popular. What I mean is, if this is truly a Corelle pattern, why doesn't anyone recognize it? If it sold well enough to warrant matching Corning Ware, why don't we see any of it about now? Just my theory!

I continue to check new in box Corning Ware for this pattern. I hope it doesn't take too many years to find the answer!

[Tracy]

There is Casserole Dish at eBay right now, with a slightly different image from the one originally posted:



This seller is calling the pattern Windsor Rose, like others have claimed before. And, as has already been noted above, it doesn't look anything like the Corelle Windsor Rose dinnerware pattern. So, I'm wondering if this is a case of there being two different patterns called Windsor Rose ... one made by Corelle and one by CorningWare?

Also, I noticed that nobody has mentioned Corelle Rose Garden (which some people call Royal Garden) as a possibility. Though the flowers are different, the coloring seems identical:

[Tracy]

Okay, I have a new theory about this mystery pattern. I was just going through all the Corningware casserole listings on eBay, and came across two more with the design:

1. Item 380041637478 says the pattern is "unknown" but "closely coordinates with Corelle Royal Garden or Garden Portrait." I don't agree with the Garden Portrait at all, but this furthers my theory about Royal Garden.

2. Item 140241599856 says in the title that the pattern is Royal Garden.

So this is my theory. The dinnerware pattern's correct name is Corelle Rose Garden. I think this line of casseroles was named Royal Garden and explains the differences in the shapes of the flowers in the patterns, while the coloring is identical. Over time, people just started confusing the names of the two patterns. Any thoughts?

[Webuycorningware]

This is where I have been going in my own mind with this mystery also.

I did like one suggestion that it was not an exact match to any Corelle pattern so that it could compliment many similar dishware patterns.

I wonder whether a request to CorningWare, this time with a suggested name would get a confirmation?

[Tracy]

I was thinking exactly the same thing, and have sent a follow-up email with replying to the previous correspondence with World Kitchen asking that very question. I included pictures of the casserole and the Rose Garden design above. Once again we wait.

[CindyMuffin]

....... Autumn Meadow .......

I was snooping around in newspaper archives looking for Meadow Corning Ware, when I found some advertisements ranging from Nov 1984 to Sep 1985. It was a mail-in offer for "Autumn Meadow" Corning Ware through a company called Imoco. It's a wretched black & white picture but you can see the general outline of the design, and it's definitely our mystery pattern. Wildflower, Spice O' Life and Blue Cornflower were also available in this special offer, but Autumn Meadow seems to be the main feature.



So it is from that same time frame of the other patterns that it reminds us of, like Glenora, Royal Garden, Summer Mist, Windsor Rose. (by the way, Royal Garden is the correct name for that CornerStone pattern, that is the way it's named in the catalogues.)

[Tracy]

Way to go! I was beginning to think we'd never get the correct answer on this one.

[Webuycorningware]

Cindymuffin .. Thank you SO much! You ROCK!

I really had given up on identifying this pattern, and although I really love the pattern I had come to accept it was always going to be a mystery ..... but I wasn't taking into account this WONDERFUL website and the fantastic folk who populate it.

Thanks Tracy for all the hard work you do so that collectors have a reference point.

[Rose]

Hello,

Help is on the way! You are looking at "Autumn Meadow."

Autumn Meadow Corning Ware: Pattern Close-Up

It is a pattern which has eluded identification for a long time, but newspaper advertisements from late 1984 and 1985 have shown that this Corning Ware pattern was named Autumn Meadow. Special sets were sold by mail order through a direct-marketing firm called Imoco Inc. One set included two 2¾ cup P-43 Petite Pans, one 2½ cup P-89 saucepan, and one 1½ Qt A-8 casserole, plus lids for all four pieces. Other casserole sizes known to exist for this pattern are: 1 Qt A-1, 2 Qt A-2, 3 Qt A-3, 5 Qt A-5.
Although Autumn Meadow was the main feature of the mail-in offer, purchasers had their choice of patterns. Blue Cornflower, Spice O' Life and Wildflower were also available. Selling new products through a mail-order company like Imoco is one method of test marketing. Since this pattern does not appear in regular catalogues from the mid 1980s, it is reasonable to assume that it progressed no further than the test marketing stage.

It is vaguely reminiscent of Wildflower, but with muted tones. In terms of colour and design it shares similarities with a few Corelle patterns from 1983 & 1984, like Glenora, Royal Garden, Summer Mist and Windsor Rose. In the absence of positive identification, Autumn Meadow has been mistaken regularly for any one of those patterns. While not a perfect match, it might have been devised to appeal to consumers who had chosen those Corelle designs. Beige tinted Corning Ware would not debut until 1990, so in the 1980s it wasn't possible to make Corning Ware to match CornerStone patterns perfectly. Autumn Meadow has a white background instead.
Similar but different: Royal Garden, Windsor Rose, Glenora, Summer Mist. Windsor Rose is from Expressions and the others are CornerStone patterns. Although it has no little blue flowers at all, Windsor Rose is by far the most frequent misnomer with which Autumn Meadow has been tagged.

I found this information at the following website:

http://www.corellecorner.com, in the search box type in "Windsor Rose" and you will see the same information that I have above.

Waiting is over!!. Enjoy.

Rose

[Tracy]

Rose,

Thank you for your enthusiastic reply. In your haste to participate, I think you missed reading the most recent posts just before you posted.

The site you quote, Corelle Corner, is the creation of Cindy Muffin, the same person responsible for identifying the pattern name here a week ago.

[CindyMuffin]

Hi Rose! Thank you for visiting Corelle Corner! : ) I was so happy to find that pattern name, and I'm glad to see people are finding my article too!